I think this was done well. Its a sad thing. Its depressing how society can kill its most innocent members. They can't defend themselves. They cannot speak for themselves. We have to speak for them.. I've done research into this subject. If the baby (Yes its a baby; fetus means child in latin if I'm not mistaken, or 'small child' has a heartbeat, and it does at only the 5th week, its alive. Nonliving things don't have heart beats.. And by looking up this subject I learned that babies can feel pain...There is a video out there called The Silent Scream. It shows an unltrasound of a baby being aborted at 11 weeks. The abortionist, after seeing this ultrasound (i dont think he did an ultrasound before during an abortion) never did an abortion again. Its a baby in there. Here are two links where you can see the development of the baby inside, like when their hearts starts beating, when they suck their thumb (the baby in The Silent Scream sucked her thumb shortly before she was torn apart by the abortion instrument), ect. At the very least, just look at these sites. From what I saw they are very respectful, especially the second link. They tell the facts. research, research. You'll be surprised at what you find.
Sure. I simply mean that things that are not alive do not have heartbeats. There are some things that ARE alive and do not have heartbeats (like plants) but there is no such thing as a dead/nonliving thing having a heartbeat.
I would consider those people alive. They are not dead; if they were, they would decompose. I am aaware some believe that they are dead, but I do not. Now I am not a doctor, so I do not know everything on brain death and similar injuries. However its obvious that they ARE alive, but they have been severely damaged and pretty much are nolonger independent. Again, I'm not an expert in this field, so I'd have to look up information in order to know more. But bringing us back to unborn babies, they have measurable brain waves at 8 weeks! I find it amazing that these children have heartsbeats AND brain function...yet are not considered to be alive.
It is interesting to find out that they have a heartbeat at 5 weeks and brain waves at that show up on a sensor at 8. But currently, thats the extent of my knowledge, which is kinda sad on my part. I'll have to look into it more.
but just to let you know; i'm pro choice and for the idea of stem cell research, BUT, and its a big BUT, I haven't made any more opinions than just being pro choice and for stem cell research. so until my knowledge is suitable for going further than that, i can't say anything more, at least in depth.
I clicked random deviation and found this piece.It reads to me like one of those genetic tests done in high risk pregnancies...must be the painful needles title. I forget the name but the test is to look for Down's Syndrome.But I also see the abortion connection.On that note I do have an opinion,pro-lifers ARE indeed prochoice in that they are CHOOSING to birth instead of abort.So leaving laws as is are in no way harming those are choosing life,in addition upholding Roe v. Wade is saving many lives by preventing backdoor/coathanger abortions.As a mother myself I am and always will be pro-choice,while I will always birth and love my babes,it is my choice to do so. Another note I am opposed to in vitro it is so unethical...look at Octo-mom. And it's like saying all babies created narturally are less important because their parents "want" them more by creating them in a lab instead of letting nature take its course. Pardon my rant folks...looks like I need to start a blog.
You're image is beautiful, I am just getting mixed signals on your message. Technically saying you are anti abortion and anti stem cell research is a contradiction, if your anti abortion, why aren't you speaking out against the destruction of thousands of cells every year from in vitro fertilization and sperm and egg banks? Why is it O.K. to throw away millions of "potential life" every year by mothers who opt to have in vitro fertilization and then have no use for them? It is better to throw away than to donate them to science? I'm not saying it is O.K. to destroy a life, but researchers are not killing babies, they are studying what is essentially and sadly the garbage of society. But alas, researchers cannot do anything because people think it is better to just throw away the "potential life" that they don't want anymore, sounds a lot like abortion doesn't it?
*After reading through the comments..*
Basically, you're all saying it's the unborn childs' choice in the matter and not the mothers?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for killing either...but people are taking this abortion thing WAY too far...
People are making it like it's some kind of act of murder..when, in reality, it's not.
I mean, if your best friend(being your BF was a girl an all) was brutally raped, and held such an anger and hate for her rapist...and had his child...would you still treat it EXACTLY the same as a wanted child apposed this a rapists child?
Better yet, what if it was you?
Would you STILL treat that child with the same respect as any other child?
I understand where ALL of you are coming from.
But if it's the MOTHERS choice to abort the child, then that's JUST her choice ALONE.
NO ONE else can make up her mind for her.
And personally, I don't think it's fair in the LEAST to act like any of you have a say in the matter.
"I mean, if your best friend (being your BF was a girl an all) was brutally raped, and held such an anger and hate for her rapist...and had his child...would you still treat it EXACTLY the same as a wanted child apposed this a rapists child?"
I have a friend who's wife was raped and she had the rapist's child. The child, a girl, actually just got married about a month ago. And my friend, her father (though not biologically) still walked her down the aisle with the happiest smile in the world.
I believe if a husband can take his daughter into his heart no matter the circumstances of her conception, then anyone should be able to. I certainly would.
*After reading through your comment*
Basically you are saying that it is the mother's choice in the matter of the life of the child? And, how are people taking it way to far?
Murder - The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
Now, please compare the definition to the example you gave supporting abortion...
Well it couldn't actually happen to me, but lets say that it happened to my sister, I would still treat the child the same way as any other child I encounter.
So... because its her "choice" it makes it ok?
I agree with you, no one can make up another person's mind for them... in fact, just like I know that I won't be able to change your mind about this topic just by debating with you here.
If its not to invasive to ask, what is your reasoning behind the comment that I (or anyone else) has no say in the matter?
Murder, is one thing. Abortion, I agree is very likely to it, but it's still not the same thing.
Either way it's said, it's always going to come across as murder, and I understand that.
I feel bad for anything not having a chance to live, but, it's always going to accumulate that it's the mothers choice. Doesn't make it completely right, but it's not a sin either.
I never said I supported it like it's the greatest thing on the planet, I just support choices.
That's good that you'd treat the child the same as any other. That's great, actually.
I just hope everyone can say that who claim abortion is wrong, ya know?
"I agree with you, no one can make up another person's mind for them... in fact, just like I know that I won't be able to change your mind about this topic just by debating with you here." I appreciate your saying that
Most people I've had these same debates with just go straight for the "You're wrong and should be shot for thinking that! SHAME ON YOU!" but to have someone agree, is nice for once, XD.
It's not invasive to ask at all
The reason I comment on these(and mainly these alone since I don't comment much..) is because there have been so many things that I went through, just to have people make the choices FOR me.
Even after I never wanted the choices made for me in the first place.
So be able to say "Look, the person who is ACTUALLY going through the thing should have the FIRST and LAST say in the matter. No one else. Yeah, give your opinion, that's always valid and appreciated most of the time, but don't push it so far as to make the choice for someone else."
And if you think about it, it's really not any more fair that abortion itself.
You all follow politicians like sheep. Abortion isn't wrong... It's not even living beings we're killing... We aren't killing anything! It's NOT alive. ffs...
We're overpopulating earth as it is.... Like a spreading cancer. Why prevent people from getting their abortion if they fucking want one?
Humanity is a disease to this earth. I'm embarrassed of being a part of it.
Please check the description again-- "i made this symbolic piece representing my anger." This is an expression of feeling; please don't cheapen the work by attacking the emotion behind it. It's quite possible to disagree, but it doesn't need to be in the form of an aggressive comment that doesn't deal at all with the art it's left on.
fetus' dont endure pain when they're either aborted or used for stem cell research because the fetus is still an embrio... therefore all they are are stem cells... otherwise they'd call it fetus/baby cell research
well don't take everything literally this is a conceptual piece
the painful needle is the intruding force, it can be anything...the fetus is representing a child, whether still an embryo or born...the ball is representing the womb or the environment it is in ..and the hand of course is representing the mother