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Those painful needles by JusT-ShanT Those painful needles by JusT-ShanT
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skdevkota Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2011
Excellent Vision over content, great thought.
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RaeSM Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2009
Gah, didn't mean to put those two smilies there. o-o sorry about that
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RaeSM Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2009
I think this was done well. Its a sad thing. Its depressing how society can kill its most innocent members. They can't defend themselves. They cannot speak for themselves. We have to speak for them..
I've done research into this subject. If the baby (Yes its a baby; fetus means child in latin if I'm not mistaken, or 'small child';) has a heartbeat, and it does at only the 5th week, its alive. Nonliving things don't have heart beats..
And by looking up this subject I learned that babies can feel pain...There is a video out there called The Silent Scream. It shows an unltrasound of a baby being aborted at 11 weeks. The abortionist, after seeing this ultrasound (i dont think he did an ultrasound before during an abortion) never did an abortion again.
Its a baby in there. Here are two links where you can see the development of the baby inside, like when their hearts starts beating, when they suck their thumb (the baby in The Silent Scream sucked her thumb shortly before she was torn apart by the abortion instrument), ect. At the very least, just look at these sites. From what I saw they are very respectful, especially the second link. They tell the facts.
research, research. You'll be surprised at what you find.

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Migitmd Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
could you expand on what you mean by this?

"Nonliving things don't have heart beats.."
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RaeSM Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2009
Sure. I simply mean that things that are not alive do not have heartbeats. There are some things that ARE alive and do not have heartbeats (like plants) but there is no such thing as a dead/nonliving thing having a heartbeat.
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Migitmd Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Ok, cause someone could have made the argument of "what about plants, they're living but have no heart beat."

on the technical side, would you consider someone that is brain dead a dead person or someone that has simply lost abstract thinking abilities?
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RaeSM Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2009
I would consider those people alive. They are not dead; if they were, they would decompose. I am aaware some believe that they are dead, but I do not.
Now I am not a doctor, so I do not know everything on brain death and similar injuries. However its obvious that they ARE alive, but they have been severely damaged and pretty much are nolonger independent. Again, I'm not an expert in this field, so I'd have to look up information in order to know more.
But bringing us back to unborn babies, they have measurable brain waves at 8 weeks! I find it amazing that these children have heartsbeats AND brain function...yet are not considered to be alive.
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Migitmd Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
It is interesting to find out that they have a heartbeat at 5 weeks and brain waves at that show up on a sensor at 8. But currently, thats the extent of my knowledge, which is kinda sad on my part. I'll have to look into it more.

but just to let you know; i'm pro choice and for the idea of stem cell research, BUT, and its a big BUT, I haven't made any more opinions than just being pro choice and for stem cell research. so until my knowledge is suitable for going further than that, i can't say anything more, at least in depth.
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RaeSM Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2009
Perhaps you can look at the second link that I posted in my very first post here; it gives more details on the development in the womb.
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aximar Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Beauriful work though I don't agree with the message.
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Dubyahater Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2009
I clicked random deviation and found this piece.It reads to me like one of those genetic tests done in high risk pregnancies...must be the painful needles title. I forget the name but the test is to look for Down's Syndrome.But I also see the abortion connection.On that note I do have an opinion,pro-lifers ARE indeed prochoice in that they are CHOOSING to birth instead of abort.So leaving laws as is are in no way harming those are choosing life,in addition upholding Roe v. Wade is saving many lives by preventing backdoor/coathanger abortions.As a mother myself I am and always will be pro-choice,while I will always birth and love my babes,it is my choice to do so.
Another note I am opposed to in vitro it is so unethical...look at Octo-mom. :p And it's like saying all babies created narturally are less important because their parents "want" them more by creating them in a lab instead of letting nature take its course. Pardon my rant folks...looks like I need to start a blog.
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HisGorgeousGirl Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
would you mind me making a poster with this picture for the Pro-life March in DC?
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uber-bubble Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
well done on the lighting, a fantastic manip
great execution of a great concept
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:iconlinguisticrubikscube:
that's an amazing piece. Very nice. Well... I mean you know not "the child been killed is very nice" but yeah.
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Sunsqueaker Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2009   Photographer
wow...
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altamashu Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2008  Professional Photographer
love it.....so well done !
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vladnemesis Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2008
:O how do you do it???
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evrydaydan Featured By Owner May 10, 2008
u stupid hippys

MEXICAN RACIST VAMPIRE
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HappilyInsane Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2008  Hobbyist Photographer
Amazing! This piece is so creative and powerful. I adore the simplicity and approach. =D
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cognac-art Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2007
simplicity is power...
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romirose22 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2007  Professional General Artist
incredibly done! My sentiments exactly.
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Nadooni22 Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2007
Amazing!!!
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jackboot05 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2007  Professional General Artist
You're image is beautiful, I am just getting mixed signals on your message. Technically saying you are anti abortion and anti stem cell research is a contradiction, if your anti abortion, why aren't you speaking out against the destruction of thousands of cells every year from in vitro fertilization and sperm and egg banks? Why is it O.K. to throw away millions of "potential life" every year by mothers who opt to have in vitro fertilization and then have no use for them? It is better to throw away than to donate them to science? I'm not saying it is O.K. to destroy a life, but researchers are not killing babies, they are studying what is essentially and sadly the garbage of society. But alas, researchers cannot do anything because people think it is better to just throw away the "potential life" that they don't want anymore, sounds a lot like abortion doesn't it?
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literaryroses Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2007
this is amazing!
i love the message, it's very powerful
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PHREAXXOR Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2007
*After reading through the comments..*
Basically, you're all saying it's the unborn childs' choice in the matter and not the mothers?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for killing either...but people are taking this abortion thing WAY too far...
People are making it like it's some kind of act of murder..when, in reality, it's not.

I mean, if your best friend(being your BF was a girl an all) was brutally raped, and held such an anger and hate for her rapist...and had his child...would you still treat it EXACTLY the same as a wanted child apposed this a rapists child?

Better yet, what if it was you?
Would you STILL treat that child with the same respect as any other child?

I understand where ALL of you are coming from.
But if it's the MOTHERS choice to abort the child, then that's JUST her choice ALONE.
NO ONE else can make up her mind for her.
And personally, I don't think it's fair in the LEAST to act like any of you have a say in the matter.
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Telumindel Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2008
"I mean, if your best friend (being your BF was a girl an all) was brutally raped, and held such an anger and hate for her rapist...and had his child...would you still treat it EXACTLY the same as a wanted child apposed this a rapists child?"

I have a friend who's wife was raped and she had the rapist's child. The child, a girl, actually just got married about a month ago. And my friend, her father (though not biologically) still walked her down the aisle with the happiest smile in the world.

I believe if a husband can take his daughter into his heart no matter the circumstances of her conception, then anyone should be able to. I certainly would.
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Pendragon006 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2007   Photographer
*After reading through your comment*
Basically you are saying that it is the mother's choice in the matter of the life of the child? And, how are people taking it way to far?
Murder - The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

Now, please compare the definition to the example you gave supporting abortion...

Well it couldn't actually happen to me, but lets say that it happened to my sister, I would still treat the child the same way as any other child I encounter.

So... because its her "choice" it makes it ok?
I agree with you, no one can make up another person's mind for them... in fact, just like I know that I won't be able to change your mind about this topic just by debating with you here.
If its not to invasive to ask, what is your reasoning behind the comment that I (or anyone else) has no say in the matter?
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PHREAXXOR Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2007
Murder, is one thing. Abortion, I agree is very likely to it, but it's still not the same thing.
Either way it's said, it's always going to come across as murder, and I understand that.
I feel bad for anything not having a chance to live, but, it's always going to accumulate that it's the mothers choice. Doesn't make it completely right, but it's not a sin either.

I never said I supported it like it's the greatest thing on the planet, I just support choices.

That's good that you'd treat the child the same as any other. That's great, actually.
I just hope everyone can say that who claim abortion is wrong, ya know?

"I agree with you, no one can make up another person's mind for them... in fact, just like I know that I won't be able to change your mind about this topic just by debating with you here." I appreciate your saying that :)
Most people I've had these same debates with just go straight for the "You're wrong and should be shot for thinking that! SHAME ON YOU!" but to have someone agree, is nice for once, XD.

It's not invasive to ask at all :)
The reason I comment on these(and mainly these alone since I don't comment much..) is because there have been so many things that I went through, just to have people make the choices FOR me.
Even after I never wanted the choices made for me in the first place.
So be able to say "Look, the person who is ACTUALLY going through the thing should have the FIRST and LAST say in the matter. No one else. Yeah, give your opinion, that's always valid and appreciated most of the time, but don't push it so far as to make the choice for someone else."
And if you think about it, it's really not any more fair that abortion itself.
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Pendragon006 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2007   Photographer
Hmmm... I would like to hear how it is different...
I am glad you feel that way about it, but I still would like to know where the mother's choice supersedes the life of her child?

I didn't think you were like that, the way you had made your argument told me that

ya... its really sad if they can't say so...

your welcome... I do think you are wrong just like how you think I am wrong but I don't think you should be shot for it :D and you are entitled to your opinion

Ok I just wanted to make sure
mmhm thats what I thought it was... Ya I agree with you
Yes, forcing someone to make a choice is just about as fair as abortion...
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riyachan Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2007
Im sick of it too.... :( This piece definately says something. Great job!
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Dudloos Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2007
I like the interpretation. I am against abortion except for situations such as incest or rape right. Great shine and colour, the embryo is gorgeous, intact little baby.
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subtrick Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2007
i think it is ok, but not realy emanzipated........sorry i thing different
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daletron Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2007
hehe i love it.
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mayahs Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2007
I am dyin to have my own baby, and look at them...they abort so easily! anyways, I love it ,very smart :)
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IWalkWithShadows Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is really amazing. It's a powerful picture.
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DoktorBock Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2007  Student General Artist
I personally prefer pro choice. This is a great piece btw.
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pppeep Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2007
You all follow politicians like sheep. Abortion isn't wrong... It's not even living beings we're killing... We aren't killing anything! It's NOT alive. ffs...
We're overpopulating earth as it is.... Like a spreading cancer. Why prevent people from getting their abortion if they fucking want one?
Humanity is a disease to this earth. I'm embarrassed of being a part of it.
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zephyrchaser Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2007   Writer
Please check the description again-- "i made this symbolic piece representing my anger." This is an expression of feeling; please don't cheapen the work by attacking the emotion behind it. It's quite possible to disagree, but it doesn't need to be in the form of an aggressive comment that doesn't deal at all with the art it's left on.
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blacklight-rose Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2007   Photographer
:jawdrop: great :)
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JusT-ShanT Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2007
thank you :)
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ashy-stock Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
fetus' dont endure pain when they're either aborted or used for stem cell research because the fetus is still an embrio... therefore all they are are stem cells... otherwise they'd call it fetus/baby cell research =P
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JusT-ShanT Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2007
well don't take everything literally this is a conceptual piece :P
the painful needle is the intruding force, it can be anything...the fetus is representing a child, whether still an embryo or born...the ball is representing the womb or the environment it is in ..and the hand of course is representing the mother
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CarolynViolet Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2007   Photographer
wow. so simple but yet so amazing.
It looks so fragile. perfect.
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JusT-ShanT Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2007
:)
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Davenit Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2007
Freakin brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JusT-ShanT Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2007
:hug: thx!
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NaughtyNekoSA Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2007
That is awsum...
I am totally against all that EVIL harm done to poor innocent unborn babies...
Say NO to abortion!!!
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JusT-ShanT Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2007
:)
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kilderok Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2007  Professional General Artist
D: This is a FANTASTIC manip! AWESOME ((and I relate cause I was born in a bubble. XD ))

OOH...you know what would be ANOTHER provocative image? A CLOSE-UP of a baby in a womb being held by a clenching hand, the baby is SCREAMING its lungs out while the needle comes closer....;__;

Humans are the monsters they fear. u___u We do the most cruel things in our known universe...

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JusT-ShanT Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2007
oh yea cool ideA! ...oh and i agree ('bout doing the most cruel things) :(
Thx for the :+fav: :)
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